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ILS APP ya da VOR APP

Postby hakanunal00 » 01 Apr 2002, 17:12

Merhaba,
Pazar (31.03) sabah Ataturk ATIS, rwy 06 icin VOR yaklasmasi veriyordu. Ogrenmek istedigim nokta su; ILS APP mumkun olan bir pistte neden VOR yaklasmasi yaptirilir ve buna karar veren yetkili merci neresidir (ya da kimdir)?

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Postby THY7 » 01 Apr 2002, 19:47

Pazar günü VOR vermesinin sebebi 06 pistindeki ILS vericisinin,ya yerinin değiştirilmesi yada üzerinde bakım yapılmasından dolayı çalışmıyor olmasıdır,ATIS'i iyi dinlediysen 36R pisti içinde ILS UNUSABLE OUTSIDE 10 DEGREE OF LOCALIZER COURSE Denmekte...Çalışmalar hızla ilerliyor,anlaşılan...


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Postby emil » 01 Apr 2002, 20:50

Yazıda bir şey dikkatimi çekti, LTBA 36L açıldımı? Yazıda 36R diye bahsedilmiş.
?imdiden teşekkürler.

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Postby aybirtek » 01 Apr 2002, 21:34

Sevgili Berhan,
biraz kiskaniyorum ,zira VHF muhabereyi takip edebiliyorsunuz.Bodrum'da benim oturdugum yerde sadece bir veya iki FIR frekansini duyabildim oda sadece ucaklari.LTFE duyulmuyor(cok normal).Bu arada belirtmek isterim ki bu yaptiginiza buyuk saygi duyuyorum,cunku gercekten cok bilgi sahibisiniz ve bunu butun arkadaslarla paylasiyorsunuz.İste bu toplulugun en guzel yani bu.
Size ve sizin gibi yardimci olmayi hedef edinmis butun arkadaslara
selam ve saygilar.
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Postby hakanunal00 » 01 Apr 2002, 22:24

Ne bitmez calismaymis kardesim, 3 aydan beri o bahsi gecen mesaji veriyor. Bence de 06'daki olay tamamen onarim v.s. v.s. kaynakli olmali.

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Postby THY7 » 01 Apr 2002, 23:39

Ahmetçim çok teşekkürler,çok naziksin...:)
Yardım edebiliyorsak ne mutlu :)
EMIL Istanbulda ikinci pist açılmadı ama bitti...SID ve STAR Chartları yapım aşamasında ATC'ler konuşmalarda 36L,36R,18L,18R demeye başladılar bile..Hizmete girmesine az kaldı demektir...

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Postby hakan737 » 01 Apr 2002, 23:57

buda demektirki bir an önce scenery'lerimizdeki under construction olan yeni pistin ve yeni GA parkının kullanıma hazır hale getirilmesi gerekiyor. Bundan sonra 18R ve 36L kalkış trafiği için kullanılabilir hazırlıklı olun :))

Sevgili Ahmet, sen BErhan'a bakma onun VHF'le dinlemesine bile gerek yok meydanın karşısında oturuyor :)) kafasını uzatınca camdan geliyor zaten ne dedikleri :))yani hepimizde bu tertibat yok anlayacağın :) sen yine FIR dinleyebiliyorsun hehehehe..yaklaşık 30nm kuzey batın'da SAMOS var oradan birşey duyulamıyormu? trafiği az değildir inan o meydanın

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Postby hakanunal00 » 02 Apr 2002, 12:07

Olay cozuldu. LTBA 06 ILS'i arizadan dolayi devre disi kalmis. ancak bu sabah duydugum kadariyla dun 06 VOR yaklasmasinda "onemli" bazi sorunlar yasandigi icin ruzgara bakilmaksizin tum inisler 36R ILS'e yonlendiriliyor. Bu arada yeni scenery konusunda forumdaki yeni mesaji okumanizi ve elinizde imkan varsa cevaplamanizi rica ederim.

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Postby guclu » 02 Apr 2002, 18:27

Arkadaslar merhaba,

bu tip durumlar icin en iyi cozum o meydanin NOTAM larin bakmaktir. TRVACC sayfasindaki airports and charts kismindan LTBA yi secip view real life notam derseniz asagidaki ciktilari gorursunuz.

Notamlarda A0493/02 nolu notamda 5 Apr 12:00 a kadar ILS 06 inactive oldugu yaziyor.

Iyi Ucuslar

Current Notams
(Selected Locations)
LTBA


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Data Current as of: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 15:16:00 GMT


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LTBA ISTANBUL/ATATURK [Back to Top]

A0358/02 - 1.REF AIP TURKEY PAGE AD 2 LTBA SID-2 DATE MAR 21 02 AMEND TO READ ERTAS 1J INSTEAD OF ERTAS 1T AND AMEND TO READ ERTAS1G INSTEAD OF ERTAS 1S. 2.REF AIP/TURKEY PAGE AD 2 LTBA SID-3A DATE MAR 21 02 AMEND TO READ ERTAS 1S INSTEAD OF ERTAS 1T AND AMEND TO READ ERTAS 1T INSTEAD OF ERTAS 1S.) DUPE 21 MAR 00:01 UNTIL PERM


A0397/02 - REF AIP AMDT NR 03/02 DATE 21 MAR 2002 PLS READ AS "EDALI 1B" INSTEAD OF "EDALI 1A" ON PAGE AD 2 LTBA STAR-3. 05 MAR 09:15 UNTIL PERM


A0428/02 - AIRCRAFT STANDS CHANGED ON THE APRON A1: PARKING AREA NR:8 TYPE OF AIRCRAFT IS CHANGED TO B737-800 PARKING AREA NR:1 TYPE OF AIRCRAFT IS CHANGED TO A300 PARKING AREA NR:5-6-7 TYPE OF AIRCRAFT IS CHANGED TO A310 ON THE APRON A5: PARKING AREA NR:122 TYPE OF AIRCRAFT IS CHANGED TO RJ100 ON THE APRON A6: PARKING AREA 123-124-125-126-127-128-129 TYPE OF AIRCRAFT IS CHANGED TO RJ100 REF AIP AMDT AD 2 LTBA PARKING. 08 MAR 08:00 UNTIL 15 MAY 08:00


A0429/02 - TAXIWAY CLOSED TWY -K- BTN THE TWY -F- AND TWY -S- CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. DUE TO WIP. 08 MAR 08:00 UNTIL 13 MAY 08:00


A0460/02 - REF AIP TURKEY AD2 LTBA-12 PLS CANCEL ALL INFORMATION IN 'NOTE 1 AND NOTE 2' UNDER THE TITLE OF 'LTBA AD 2.21 NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES' AND INSERT THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH INSTEAD. 'PILOTS SHALL APPLY ''NOISE ABATEMENT DEPARTURE PROCEDURES 1 (NADP1)'' WHICH HAS BEEN EXPLAINED IN ICAO DOC 8186 VOL-1 UNTIL PASSING 3000FT. 21 MAR 00:01 UNTIL PERM


A0493/02 - ILS UNSERVICEABLE RWY 06 ILS OUT OF SERVICE. 21 MAR 12:00 UNTIL 05 APR 12:00


A0559/02 - LOCALIZER (ILS) RWY 36R ILS LLZ COURSE IS UNUSABLE EXCEPT 10 DEGREES STRAIGHT LEFT SIDE (WEST) OF CENTER LINE. 29 MAR 12:46 UNTIL 29 MAY 12:00


A0561/02 - NDB UNSERVICEABLE BKZ NDB 432 KHZ OUT OF SERVICE. 29 MAR 14:20 UNTIL 29 MAY 12:00


A0563/02 - AIRCRAFT STANDS CLOSED PARKING AREAS NUMBERED 9-10-11-12-13-14-15-16 ON APRON A1, CLOSED TO TRAFFIC 29 MAR 16:00 UNTIL 30 APR 17:00


A0564/02 - TAXIWAY CLOSED THE PART OF TWY -C- BTN TWY -H- AND TWY -K- CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. 29 MAR 16:00 UNTIL 30 APR 17:00


A0565/02 - TAXIWAY CLOSED TWY -J- CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. 29 MAR 16:00 UNTIL 30 APR 17:00


A0566/02 - TAXIWAY CLOSED THE PART OF TWY -K- BTN TWY -C- AND TWY -D- CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. 29 MAR 16:00 UNTIL 30 APR 17:00


A0577/02 - LOCALIZER (ILS) UNSERVICEABLE RWY 18L ILS/LLZ IISB 111.1 MHZ OUT OF SERVICE. 01 APR 06:10 UNTIL 13 APR 17:30 ESTIMATED


A0584/02 - FIRE FIGHTING AND RESCUE LIMITED TO RWY FOAMING IS NOT AVAILABLE. 02 APR 04:00 UNTIL 13 APR 07:00


A2462/02 - TAXIWAY CLOSED THE PART OF TWY -C- BTN TWYS -H- AND -K- CLOSED TO TRAFFIC. 27 DEC 12:30 2001 UNTIL 15 FEB 17:00 ESTIMATED


A2478/01 - RUNWAY CENTERLINE LIGHTS UNSERVICEABLE RWY 06/24 CENTERLINE LIGHTS OUT OF SERVICE.) DUPE 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


A2479/01 - SEQUENCED FLASHING LIGHTS UNSERVICEABLE RWY 06/24 FLASHING LIGHTS OUT OF SERVICE. 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


A2480/01 - THRESHOLD LIGHTS UNSERVICEABLE RWY 06/24 THRESHOLD IDENTIFICATION LIGSHTS OUT OF SERVICE. 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


A2481/01 - TAXIWAY CENTER LINE LIGHTS UNSERVICEABLE P TWY CENTER LINE LIGHTS OUT OF SERVICE.DUE TO WIP. 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


A2482/01 - TAXIWAY CENTER LINE LIGHTS UNSERVICEABLE THE PORTION BTN -C- AND -D- TWYS OF -K- TWY EDGE LIGHTS OUT OF SERVICE.DUE TO WIP. 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


A2488/01 - AIRCRAFT STANDS THERE IS NO LIGHTINING AT PARKING AREAS 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 ON APRON A1. 28 DEC 16:00 2001 UNTIL 01 JUL 22:00 ESTIMATED


V0225/02 - [DOD PROCEDURAL NOTAM] INSTRUMENT APPROACH PROCEDURE CHANGED ILS/DME RWY 24. S-ILS 24 WHEN ALS INOP INCREASE VIS TO 1200M. 21 MAR 00:01 UNTIL 16 MAY 00:01


V0226/02 - [DOD PROCEDURAL NOTAM] INSTRUMENT APPROACH PROCEDURE CHANGED ILS/DME RWY 06. S-ILS 06 WHEN ALS INOP INCREASE VIS TO 1200M; S-LOC 06 WHEN ALS INOP, INCREASE VIS TO 1600M. 21 MAR 00:01 UNTIL 16 MAY 00:01


V0227/02 - [DOD PROCEDURAL NOTAM] INSTRUMENT APPROACH PROCEDURE CHANGED ILS RWY 18L. S-ILS 18L: CHANGE CEILING TO 200, WHEN ALS INOP INCREASE RVR CAT AB TO 1220M, VIS TO 1200M; CAT CD RVR TO 1520M, VIS TO 1600M; S-LOC 18L:WHEN ALS INOP, INCREASE CAT CD RVR TO 1830M, VIS TO 2000M. 21 MAR 00:01 UNTIL 16 MAY 00:01



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